Jenny Garrett was delighted to be interviewed by Rebecca Torr from Emerald Publishing on their podcast. Some key themes from the conversation were:

• Equality vs. Equity: The discussion centres around the distinction between equality and equity. Jenny Garrett argues that simply providing the same opportunities to everyone (equality) is not enough, as individuals come from different backgrounds and face different challenges. Equity involves providing additional support to those who need it to create a level playing field.
  
• Organizational Change: Jenny Garrett emphasizes the need for organizations to move beyond performative actions and commit to long-term systemic change. This includes examining recruitment practices, providing development opportunities for diverse staff, and creating inclusive work environments.
  
• Individual Change: The book “Equality vs Equity” offers practical tips for individuals to become empathetic changemakers. This includes challenging personal biases, developing an understanding of different experiences, and using privilege to advocate for others.
  
• Structure of the Book: The book is structured to provide both theoretical background and practical tools. It starts with Jenny Garrett’s personal experiences, delves into the history of race and meritocracy, and then offers case studies and actionable tips for individuals and organizations.
  
• Future Outlook: Jenny Garrett expresses optimism about the potential for positive change, but acknowledges the need for ongoing effort and perseverance. She encourages individuals to continue learning, speaking up, and taking action to create a more equitable future.

Additional highlights:

• The conversation highlights Jenny Garrett’s holistic approach to addressing diversity and inclusion issues, emphasising the importance of individual and organisational efforts working together.
• The book “Equality vs Equity” is highlighted as a valuable resource for individuals and organisations seeking to understand and implement systemic change.
• Jenny Garrett’s emphasis on empathy and humility encourages individuals to take responsibility for their own biases and use their privilege to advocate for others.

You can listen to the podcast here, or read the full transcript of the conversation here

Further resources from Jenny Garrett and Emerald are below:

• Jenny Garrett was interviewed for an International Women’s Day Podcast on breaking through bias to achieve career potential

• Webinar on What white leaders can do to diversify the workplace, watch here

• Jenny Garrett’s book Equality vs Equity, tackling issues of Race in the workplace was also published by Emerald